Accessing a Legacy Windows Application Running Under Wine On A Containerised, RDP Enabled Desktop In a Browser Via A Guacamole Server Running in a Docker Container

I finally got round to finding, and fiddling with, an Apache Guacamole container that I could actually make sense of and it seems to work, with audio, when connecting to my demo RobotLab/Wine RDP desktop.

The container I tried is based on the Github repo oznu/docker-guacamole.

The container is started with:

mkdir guac_config
docker run -p 8080:8080 -v guac_config:/config oznu/guacamole

Login with user name and password guacadmin.

I then launched a RobotLab container that is running an RDP server:

docker run --name tm129 --hostname tm129demo --shm-size 1g -p 3391:3389 -d ousefulcoursecontainers/tm129rdp

Inside Guacamole, we need to create a new connection profile. From the admin drop down menu, select Settings, click on the Connections tab and create a New Connection:

Given the connection a name and specify the protocol as RDP:

The connection settings require the IP address and port noumber that the connection is to be made on. The port mapping was specified when we started the RobotLab container (3391) but what’s the network address? If we try to claim “localhost” in the Guacamole container, that refers the container’s localhost, not localhost on host. On a Mac, we can pick up the host IP address from the Network panel in the System Preferences:

Enter the appropriate connection parameters and save them:

From the admin menu, select Home. From the home screen you should be able to select the new connection…

When the connection is opened, I was presented with a warning dialogue:

but clicking OK cleared it okay…

Then I could enter the RobotLab RDP connection details (username and password are both ubuntu):

and I was in to the desktop.

The application files can be found within the File System in the /opt directory.

As mentioned previously, the base container needs some fettling… When you first run the RobotLab or Neural applications, Wine wants to do some updates (which requires a network connection). If I could figure out how to create users in the base image, rather than user creation occurring as part of the entrypoint, following the recipe here.

Although it’s a little bit ropey, the Guacamole desktop does play out audio.

RobotLab has three instructions for playing audio: sound, send and tone. The sound and send commands play an audio file, and this works, sort of (the spoken works played using the send command are, erm, very robotic!). The tone command doesn’t work, but I’ve seen in docs that this was an outstanding issue for some versions of Windows, so maybe it doesn’t work properly under Wine anyway…

Finally, I note that if you leave the remote desktop running, a screensaver kicks in…

Although the audio support isn’t brilliant (maybe there are “settings” in the container config that can improve it?) the support is more or less good enough, as is, for audio feedback / beeps etc. And just about good enough for the RobotLab activities.

What this means is that now I do have a route for running RobotLab, via a browser, with sort of desktop support.

One other thing to note relates to the network addressing. If I start the Guacamole and RobotLab containers together via a docker-compose.yml file, I’m guessing I should be able to define a Docker Compose network to connect them and use that as the network address/alias name in the Guacamole connection setting?

But I’m creatively drained atm and can’t face trying to get anything else working today…

PS another remote desktop protocol, SPICE, which I found via mentions in OpenStack docs…: [t]he SPICE project aims to provide a complete open source solution for remote access to virtual machines in a seamless way so you can play videos, record audio, share usb devices and share folders without complications [docs and a simple looking howto]. Not sure how deprecated / live this is?

Running Microsoft VS Code Remotely – In a Browser Using XPRA and Via a Remote Desktop Application Using RDP

If you’re a new student with a bright new Chromebook or other netbook style computer, what do you do other than panic, or cry, when you’re expected to download and install a desktop application — even a cross-platform one — when you start your course?

A month or so ago I posted some notes on Viewing Dockerised Desktops via an X11 Bridge, novnc and RDP, Sort of… where I found a recipe for running a graphical application running in one container via a browser using a “bridge” application in another container.

(The bridge application container exposed a graphical desktop using http via a browser. The bridge connected to the application container via an X11 connection and then exposed the graphical UI using X11.)

As a building block, this is useful in a couple of ways:

  • the application can be remotely hosted and used to expose a graphical application via a browser (so no installation required);
  • the same recipe can be used to set up a “hub” on a local machine to let you run arbitrary graphical applications on your own computer and access them via a browser.

It can be a bit fiddly though and requires plumbing the application container to the bridge, although Docker Compose can handle that for you.

But it’s still one more thing to go wrong.

And it doesn’t help the student with a Chromebook and no local installation route (let’s set aside the ability to run containers on a Chromebook – the same is probably not true of other netbooks, plus it requires a good spec Chromebook).

One of the problems I’ve found with the browser based approach is that you don’t necessarily get sound… So for our student hoping to rely on accessing an application via a remote server, that could be an issue too…

So here are a couple more recipes for creating simple containerised applications that can be used to provide access to remote desktops, whether they’re remote over the internet, or running “remotely” in a container on your own machine.

To demonstrate, I’ll use the Microsoft VSCode application. This electron app will run cross platform, but that doesn’t directly help if you need to access it remotely…

Method the First: An XPRA Container

Via lanrat/docker-xpra-html5, a base container that includes an XPRA server.

That repo has been archived, perhaps because among other things it was using an old version of Linux. I’ve done an update here — — with a Docker image here — ousefuldemos/docker-xpra-html5 — but still need to check it continues to work as the old one did.

Via the CoCalc Docker container recipe, I cribbed this Dockerfile installation command for VSCode that needs to be added in to the Dockerfile:

#From cocalc-docker
# Microsoft's VS Code
RUN apt-get update && apt-get install -y curl && apt-get clean && \
     curl | gpg --dearmor > microsoft.gpg \
  && install -o root -g root -m 644 microsoft.gpg /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ \
  && sh -c 'echo "deb [arch=amd64] stable main" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list' \
  && DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install -y apt-transport-https \
  && apt-get update \
  && DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install -y code

We can use a simple Dockerfile bootstrapped with FROM lanrat/docker-xpra-html5) and then add in the VSCode layer, or we can add it to a cloned copy of the original repository Dockerfile and build our own container from scratch.

I also made a couple of other tweaks to the Dockerfile so that it could use my own command file. But first, we need to create another file ( for our own start command that will launch VSCode, rather than the infinityTerminal, on start:

#! /usr/bin/env bash

#Start the VSCode app

#Keep the container running...
tail -f /dev/null

Then copy the file into the container, and set the permissions, via these Dockerfile instructions:

ADD /usr/local/bin/vscode
RUN chmod +x /usr/local/bin/vscode

I also made a change to the CMD, replacing --start-child=infinityTerm with the --start-child=vscode value and using the new CMD line in my Dockerfile:

CMD xpra start --bind-tcp= --html=on --start-child=vscode --exit-with-children --daemon=no --xvfb="/usr/bin/Xvfb +extension Composite -screen 0 1920x1080x24+32 -nolisten tcp -noreset" --pulseaudio=no --notifications=no --bell=no

If you’re creating your own Dockerfile bootstrapped from the original Docker image, rather than built from the raw Dockerfile, you’ll need to add the revised CMD command in too. (The CMD statement also looks to have a wide range of other settings that could be useful and that may provide a better experience.)

Building a local copy of the container with docker build -t psychemedia/xpra-vscode . (yes, the . is part of that: it tells the builder to look in the local (.) directory for the Dockerfile) and running it with docker run --rm -d -p 8822:10000 psychemedia/xpra-vscode, the fan on my laptop goes in to overdrive but I can now work in VSCode via my browser:

So that seems to work…

(I also pushed the image to Dockerhub, so you should be able to run the docker run command directly yourself… Alternatively, you can run the command in a new Digital Ocean Docker droplet (see steps 1-5 of the recipe here).)

Method the Second: An RDP Container

In this second example, let’s add the VSCode editor to an image published at danielguerra69/ubuntu-xrdp. Bootstrapping from that container, all we need to do is pull in a VSCode layer:

FROM danielguerra/ubuntu-xrdp

RUN apt-get update && apt-get install -y curl && apt-get clean

RUN curl | gpg --dearmor > microsoft.gpg \
  && install -o root -g root -m 644 microsoft.gpg /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ \
  && sh -c 'echo "deb [arch=amd64] stable main" > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/vscode.list' \
  && DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install -y apt-transport-https \
  && apt-get update \
  && DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get install -y code

Building this with docker build -t psychemedia/rdp-vscode . and then running it with docker run --rm -d --name uxrdp --hostname terminalserver --shm-size 1g -p 3399:3389 psychemedia/rdp-vscode I can now connect to it on localhost:3399 using a Microsoft Remote Desktop app (available for Windows, Android, iOS and macOS) and login with default credentials (user: ubuntu, password: ubuntu) and access it via a remote desktop window.

(One issue is that resizing the RDP app window doesn’t resize the desktop to fit; there’s perhaps a setting I’m missing somewhere that might help with that…?)

(As before, I also pushed the image to Dockerhub, so you should be able to run the docker run command directly yourself…)

Looking at the Dockerfile, it also looks as if something is exposed on port 9001. If we add -p 9001:9001 (remember, the pattern is -p HOST_PORT:PORT_INSIDE_CONTAINER into the docker start command, and then go to the mapped port, we see a supervisor control panel:


Something like that could be a handy thing to add in to the TM351 VM… Here’s the corresponding supervisor.d config file… (Looks like we can use it as a basis for further monitoring, eg of memory usage. See here.)

I can also confirm that audio (as well as video) works…

Sort of…

Launching a 2GB Digital Ocean Docker droplet with the following user data / startup command:

When I connected to the public IP address for the droplet with port 3389, the RDP worked fine but when I tried to play a Youtube video in Firefox, the buffering garbled the audio really badly. (Maybe a larger droplet instance would have been better…)


These two simple recipes provide a way for sharing simple GUI apps either via a browser (without audio) or via RDP, with sound available if required. Microsoft provide cross-platform clients for Windows, Mac, Android and IoS.

If the Android client in the Google Play store works for Chromebooks, then a student with a Chromebook should be able to fully access a remotely hosted application over RDP, including support for audio and video.

There is a huge gulf, of course, between being able to get things working, sort of, and getting them working at scale in an educational environment.

The experience may be a bit ropey at times, but if we have one or two students with real issues getting software working, I don’t see why we can’t try to pull together a homebrew solution to provide them with a remotely hosted software environment, albeit perhaps a temporary one.

And each time we try, we’ll maybe figure out a way to smooth it out and improve the experience a bit more.

Or we could teach folk how to launch their own remote server instances  which could be kept running with some sort of file persistence over the life of a course, whether by leaving the server switched on or mounting user files to a storage volume somewhere . (We’d probably have to improve the security layer a bit, at least by showing students how to create their own user credentials. But that’s a problem we’d only have to figure out a recipe for once.)

What keeps winding me up is how folk are so resistant to using computers to do computery things…

PS here’s something else I learned today, ish via @mickaelistria on the Twitterz. The original tweet pointed to a repo that provides access to an Eclipse IDE via a browser: From which I then learned that the GDK Broadway backend provides support for displaying GTK+ applications in a web browser, using HTML5 and web sockets. So that’s another route?

Also via Twitter, @olberger pointed me to, which looks like it provides an online development environment built around .

I’m thoroughly out of my depth with this development environment stuff…

All I’m trying to do is identify the small pieces that can be used to make applications available to students.

For two reasons…

Firstly, so I can experiment with the pieces and get a feel for how they work / what their limitations are / what sorts of richer environments might come to be built on their foundations.

Secondly, so when folk pitch whizzy start-up solutions to us at “only” $X per student seat, I have some mental filters in place so that I can filter out the shiny glare and get a feeling for what’s actually being offered, and maybe what technology it’s built on (or at least, seed me questions so I can try to figure out what it’s built on). And from that, what the limitations and benefits might be. We generally don’t get to hear, make time for, or understand detailed technical sales pitches, but at the end of the day, the tech is a large part of what you’re buying, wrapped up in user experience chrome.

PS here’s an online service that looks like it’s over a ‘native’ web hosted version of VS Code:  StackBlitz; and here’s another, , with a repo: codercom/code-server.

PPS By the by, VS Code looks like it’s built using this browser based text editor from Microsoft: Monaco.

PPPS @betatim show’s how it’s done… the codercom/code-server running in a Binder container proxied in a Jupyer notebook environment using jupyter-server-proxy:

Viewing Dockerised Desktops via an X11 Bridge, novnc and RDP, Sort of…

So… the story so far…

As regular readers of this blog will know, I happen to be of the opinion that we should package more of OUr software using Docker containers, for a couple of reasons (at least):

  • we control the software environment, including all required dependencies, and avoiding any conflicts with preinstalled software;
  • the same image can be used to launch containers locally or remotely.

I also happen to believe that we should deliver all UIs through a browser. Taken together with the containerised services, this means that students just need a browser to run course related software. Which could be on their phone, for all I care.

I keep umming and ahhing about electron apps. If the apps that are electron wrapped are also packaged so that they can also be run as a service and accessed via a browser too, that’s fine, I guess…

There are some cases in which this won’t work. For example, not all applications we may want to distribute come with an HTML UI, but instead may be native applications (which is an issue becuase we are supposed to be platform independent), or cross platform applications that use native widgets (for example, Java apps, or electron apps).

One way round this is to run a desktop application in container and then expose its UI using X11, (aka the X Window System), although this looks like it may be on the way out in favour of other windowing alternatives, such as Wayland… See also Chrome OS Is Working To Remove The Last Of Its X11 Dependencies. (I am so out of my depth here!)

Although X11 does provide a way of rendering windows created on a remote (or containerised guest) system using native windows on your own desktop, a downside is that it requires X11 support on your own machine; and I haven’t found a cross-platform one that looks to be a popular de facto standard.

Another approach is to use VNC, in which the remote (or guest) system sends a compressed rendered version of the desktop back to your machine, which then renders it. (See X11 on Raspberry Pi – remote login from your laptop for a discussion of some of the similarities and differences between X11 and VNC.)

Note to self – one of the issues I’ve had with VNC is the low screen resolution of the rendered desktop… but is that just because I used a default low resolution in the remote VNC server? Another issue I’ve had in the past with novnc, a VNC client that renders desktops using HTML via a browser window, relates to video and audio support… Video is okay, but VNC doesn’t do audio?

Earlier today, I came across x11docker, that claims to run GUI applications and desktops in docker (though on Windows and Linux desktops only. The idea is that you “just type x11docker IMAGENAME [COMMAND]” to launch a container and an X11 connection is made that allows the application to be rendered in a native X11 window. You can find a recipe for doing something similar on a Mac here: Running GUI’s with Docker on Mac OS X.

But that all seems a little fiddly, not least because of a dependency on an X11 client which might need to be separately installed. However, it seems that we can use another Docker container — JAremko/docker-x11-bridge — running xpra (“an open-source multi-platform persistent remote display server and client for forwarding applications and desktop screens”) as bridge that can connect to an X11 serving docker container and render the desktop in a browser.

For example, Jess Frazelle’s collection of Dockerfiles containerise all manner of desktop applications (though I couldn’t get them all to work over X11; maybe I wasn’t starting the containers correctly?). I can get them running, in my browser, by starting the bridge:

docker run -d \
 --name x11-bridge \
 -e MODE="tcp" \
 -e XPRA_HTML="yes" \
 -e DISPLAY=:14 \
 -p 10000:10000 \

and then firing up a couple of applications:

docker run -d --rm  \
  --name firefox \
  --volumes-from x11-bridge \
  -e DISPLAY=:14 \

docker run -d --rm  \
  --name gimp \
  --volumes-from x11-bridge \
  -e DISPLAY=:14 \

#docker kill gimp firefox
#docker rm gimp firefox
#docker rmi jess/gimp jess/firefox

Another approach is to use VNC within a container, an approach I’ve used with this DIT4C Inspired RobotLab Container/ (The DIT4C container is quite old now; perhaps there’s something more recent I should use? In particular, audio support was lacking.)

It’s been a while since I had a look around for good examples of novnc containers, but this Collection of Docker images with headless VNC environments could be a useful start:

Desktop environment Xfce4 or IceWM
VNC-Server (default VNC port 5901)
noVNC – HTML5 VNC client (default http port 6901)

The containers also allow screen resolution and colour depth to be set via environment variables. The demo seems to work (without audio) using novnc in a browser, and I can connect using TigerVNC to the VNC port, though again, without audio support.

Audio is a pain. On a Linux machine, you can mount an audio device when you start a novnc container (eg fcwu/docker-ubuntu-vnc-desktop) but I’m not sure if that works on a Mac? Or how it’d work on Windows?) That said, a few years ago I did find a recipe for getting audio out of a remote container that did seem to work — More Docker Doodlings – Accessing GUI Apps Via a Browser from a Container Using Guacamole — although it seems to be broken now (did the container format change in that period I wonder?). Is there a more recent (and robust) variant of this out there somewhere, I wonder?

Hmm… here’s another approach: using a remote desktop client. Microsoft produce RDP (Remote Desktop Protocol) clients for different platforms so that might provide a useful starting point.

This repo — danielguerra69/firefox-rdp — builds on danielguerra69/dockergui (fork of this) and shows how to create a container running Firefox that can be accessed via RDP. If I run it:

docker run --rm -d --shm-size 1g -p 3389:3389 --name firefox danielguerra/firefox-rdp

I can create a connection using the Microsoft remote desktop client at the address localhost:3389, login with my Mac credentials, and then use the application. Testing on Youtube shows that video and audio work too. So that’s promising…

(Docker housekeeping: docker kill firefox; docker rm firefox; docker rmi danielguerra/firefox-rdp.)

Hmmm… so maybe now we’re getting somewhere more recent. Eg danielguerra69/ubuntu-xrdp although this doesn’t render the desktop properly for me, and danielguerra69/alpine-xfce4-xrdp doesn’t play out the audio? Ah, well… I’ve wasted enough time on this for today…